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 When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?

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PostSubject: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptySat Mar 24, 2012 8:06 am

It has more than 200,000 km.
The engine sounds nice, easy start, but weak in the car, do not feel strongly, do not accelerate well.
Maybe the engine is worn out?
P.S.:Can unleaded petrol because the valves are the problem?
(I do not use additives.)
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptySat Mar 24, 2012 8:47 am

Do not mess with the engine if the oil level between the two changes is normal, consider it if the exhaust fumes are blueish in colour, which would indicate oil burning. Also check the spark plugs, if they are wet and black, that is also a sign of your engine burning oil. Try correcting the ignition timing first, it can help with the lack of power.
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptySat Mar 24, 2012 10:11 pm

Ignition renovated approx. 1 year. Oil consumption, oil changes while incredible, is not. This is surprising, but good.
Medium crankcase, oil dripping from the engine, but not much.
Maybe carburetor, but do not consume a lot about. Average of 8 liters.
I do not know why it is weak.
PS :: What is a candle factory key?
As for me, not good!
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptySat Mar 24, 2012 11:04 pm

8 liters is an ok consumption, but the dripping oil... Do you have ignition with contact breaker or electronic?
You shuold try to find NGK Bpr6e or bp6es v line spark plugs. I have them and they are preety good. Other than NGK you can use Bosna fe65p. Also check the ignition timing with a stroboscope, just to be sure, it's much more precise with a strobe.
The fact that the engine itself is not burning oil is good.
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptySat Mar 24, 2012 11:21 pm

Vladislav: thanks for the answer, the spark plugs NGK BP6ES 7811 (Super Bosna, unfortunately, can not be considered here), the electronic ignition, electrical mechanic, take her to see if helps.
Once again thank you for your reply!
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyWed Mar 28, 2012 11:21 am

I think that you have carburator problem.
Chect valves settings. Unleaded fuel should not be the problem for our engines - i was talking to Zastava engeneer who was working on the developpement of these engines.
Also check igniton system.
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyThu Mar 29, 2012 8:18 am

Quote :
Unleaded fuel should not be the problem for our engines - i was talking to Zastava engeneer who was working on the developpement of these engines.
This is good news, thank you.
200,000 km is not too much of a Zastava 101 engine?
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyThu Mar 29, 2012 9:09 am

Of course not... Child's play. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyThu Mar 29, 2012 9:29 am

my neighbour was driving Zastava 101 '74, well maintained, untill 470 000 km, no engine reparation was needed, but evrything else fell apart Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyThu Mar 29, 2012 10:02 am

Super cheers
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyThu Mar 29, 2012 10:18 am

The older people say, "Zastava, I drove, I really like."
And I'm proud of at this time.
This is another kind of no worse than Confort, GTL?
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyThu Mar 29, 2012 10:42 pm

Vsi kar jih poznam in so vozili stoenke pravijo, da več kot 150.000 km brez generalke je že super če ti še deluje...

Svi, što jih poznajem i da su nekad vozili stojadina, pričaju, da ako ima više od 150.000 km bez speciale (generalnog popravila) je že super ako ti još radi...

Anyone, who I know and they were driving z101, told me, if that car has more than 150.000 km without engine renovation is like a miracle if it's still running.

Ne znam šta je u istini (I don't know, what is in real) :bad: Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyFri Mar 30, 2012 10:58 am

sine your car is an export car, i think it has quality engine. GTL for Serbian market had a weak engine...My grandfather was driving '85 GTL and it was a disaster
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyFri Mar 30, 2012 3:25 pm

To je slucajnost, svaki GTL koji ja znam presao je min 170-180000km bez generalne.
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyThu May 03, 2012 4:18 pm

The latest fishing ended with me feeling unwell, Zastava than half tuition fuel runs out, pretending beszaggat, then the clutch kinyomására stops. Redeemed, momentum has resumed, since the idle, where it is, sometimes not. Third up to 60, 90 directly at 4000rpm, the end of the throttle 100. Low speed range and tear. Dynamics, there is no absolute, only sound.
The pre-filter karburátur deformed, there is no contamination.
What could be the problem? Gasoline pump?
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyFri May 04, 2012 12:51 pm

Put the gasoline filter, clean the tank and the pump. I think you have dirt in fuel instalation...
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyFri May 25, 2012 11:47 am

Zastava 101: you were right!
Today the car is down the road, ran out of petrol, and the instrument quarter showed. I took apart the transmitter, felakadt, the tank filled with black dirt duty. I could not find drain plug. How to proceed?
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyWed Sep 12, 2012 8:04 am

Compression test: 1.3. 7 bar, 2.4. 9 bar. Sad
Now the engine has to be renewed?
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyWed Sep 12, 2012 9:56 am

There is no drain valve on gas tank. You need to demount it totaly. Wash it out, let it DRY well and that would be it.

You may have problem with engine valves, check them before you start engine renewal.
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PostSubject: Re: When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove?   When to engine renovation? Kada motor obnove? EmptyWed Sep 12, 2012 12:34 pm

The result is not the best, but if there is no oil consumption or small, can do a lot more to go.
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